The question is simple, should babies/children be banned from certain restaurants? Or is it a simple question? Watch my video blog for my two cents and please read the articles below about the baby ban at one restaurant in Ottawa. Please post your comments here as well as on the websites below, we want to hear from you.
I don't have to read the articles to weigh in on this one. I totally agree that some places should be off limits to children and that restaurants should be able to put that in their policy. Some parents don't have comment sense, so might as well let someone else do it for them. I once went to an expensive "sho sho" restaurant and there was a family with a 3 year old and newborn and we had to sit next to them. Well that mom decided that night that she was going to teach her 3 year old some manners and that her newborn would have to cry it out because he was staying in his carseat. It was hell to listen to that baby cry for almost 45 mins. Finally another patron offered to pick up the baby to make it stop and mom said no and to mind their business. Like I said... the people out there that have no common sense ruin it for everyone else. I love going to restaurants, but when I had my son, I knew that I was giving that up for a while until I could get a babysitter. I only take him to child friendly restaurants and even then... I keep it to a reasonable hour. I went out with my husband the other night to get some couple time together... we went to a restaurant/club and it was 9pm and still people showed up with babies and kids crying because they are tired and don't want to sit down and blah blah blah. It was really unpleasant. So yes, I am totally for it. And it's not because of the breastfeeding in public stuff... it's the crying and whinning stuff and the running around the restaurant and screaming stuff. You may have a perfect angel... but about the next kid that isn't. So again... I am all for it.
Fri, 07/16/2010 - 21:30 — jennreay
it's so unfortunate what happened to that mom and baby. i bet that restaurant will see a big drop in business from this publicity. since our little man was born, we've discovered places that are baby friendly and places that aren't.. and we are huge customers to those that are good to us! there is a place that we considered going to until we noticed a note on the door saying strollers are banned but 'well behaved children' are welcome. sounds nice-ish, but they've definitely lost our business, as you never know when your child is going to have a moment and even if you swoop them out of there at lightning speed, a sign like that guarantees dirty looks. when there are so many places that are family friendly, why bother with the ones that aren't?
Fri, 07/16/2010 - 12:44 — kbannister
I can see both sides of the argument. It can be frustrating to be seated beside a screaming baby. But as a mother of two young children, it is also appalling to think that my family would not be welcome in a public space. I exercise caution when taking my family "out on the town". I think most parents do: we choose family friendly restaurants and attend during the "early bird hour". But that is not to say that my children haven't been in very adult atmospheres - a wedding ceremony and reception, an airplane, church, new restaurants... and when my child did scream while we were out for pizza - we took turns rocking him in our arms outside. I think most parents are sensitive enough to do this. So give us a little credit. I suspect these parents knew their son could handle it, or else they wouldn't be leaving the house at all.
The argument about "room for a stroller or car seat" or a chair that isn't dedicated to a paying customer sounds fishy to me - I think they just don't want the baby to cry. A wheelchair takes up a lot of room. would they really deny a disabled person the opportunity to dine in their restaurant. And shouldn't all places have a baby change station? It seems as courteous as having automatic doors.
And the breastfeeding thing? Well let's just hope that employee misspoke and her words do not represent the restaurant. Denying a baby the right to eat is just so wrong (and archaic, have we not progressed at all?!)
This reminds me: I went to Portugal for my honeymoon and at 10:00pm in a very fancy restaurant an entire family came in. One member was just a baby in a car seat. No one batted an eye. My husband and I just went on drinking our Port. I doubt they have these discussions there.
Fri, 07/16/2010 - 07:31 — babybug
I'm not sure how I feel about this ban. I have a 2 year old and when I go to restaurants I take her to ones that I know are child friendly. I don't think I would ever take her to one that had Wine bar in the name. I feel those are the type of restaurants that parents would go to, to have a night out. Don't get me wrong, I love taking my daughter out to restaurants but she's 2 now and sometimes it more work than a nice night out! However, the child in question is only 3 months old, so really where is the harm. The baby is not going to drink alcohol so there is no threat to the liquor license and I'm sure if he was a colicy baby they wouldn't have even considered taking him to a restaurant. So I guess I also see both sides of the coin but am not sure which side I'm leaning towards.
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I don't have to read the articles to weigh in on this one. I totally agree that some places should be off limits to children and that restaurants should be able to put that in their policy. Some parents don't have comment sense, so might as well let someone else do it for them. I once went to an expensive "sho sho" restaurant and there was a family with a 3 year old and newborn and we had to sit next to them. Well that mom decided that night that she was going to teach her 3 year old some manners and that her newborn would have to cry it out because he was staying in his carseat. It was hell to listen to that baby cry for almost 45 mins. Finally another patron offered to pick up the baby to make it stop and mom said no and to mind their business. Like I said... the people out there that have no common sense ruin it for everyone else. I love going to restaurants, but when I had my son, I knew that I was giving that up for a while until I could get a babysitter. I only take him to child friendly restaurants and even then... I keep it to a reasonable hour. I went out with my husband the other night to get some couple time together... we went to a restaurant/club and it was 9pm and still people showed up with babies and kids crying because they are tired and don't want to sit down and blah blah blah. It was really unpleasant. So yes, I am totally for it. And it's not because of the breastfeeding in public stuff... it's the crying and whinning stuff and the running around the restaurant and screaming stuff. You may have a perfect angel... but about the next kid that isn't. So again... I am all for it.
it's so unfortunate what happened to that mom and baby. i bet that restaurant will see a big drop in business from this publicity. since our little man was born, we've discovered places that are baby friendly and places that aren't.. and we are huge customers to those that are good to us! there is a place that we considered going to until we noticed a note on the door saying strollers are banned but 'well behaved children' are welcome. sounds nice-ish, but they've definitely lost our business, as you never know when your child is going to have a moment and even if you swoop them out of there at lightning speed, a sign like that guarantees dirty looks. when there are so many places that are family friendly, why bother with the ones that aren't?
I can see both sides of the argument. It can be frustrating to be seated beside a screaming baby. But as a mother of two young children, it is also appalling to think that my family would not be welcome in a public space. I exercise caution when taking my family "out on the town". I think most parents do: we choose family friendly restaurants and attend during the "early bird hour". But that is not to say that my children haven't been in very adult atmospheres - a wedding ceremony and reception, an airplane, church, new restaurants... and when my child did scream while we were out for pizza - we took turns rocking him in our arms outside. I think most parents are sensitive enough to do this. So give us a little credit. I suspect these parents knew their son could handle it, or else they wouldn't be leaving the house at all.
The argument about "room for a stroller or car seat" or a chair that isn't dedicated to a paying customer sounds fishy to me - I think they just don't want the baby to cry. A wheelchair takes up a lot of room. would they really deny a disabled person the opportunity to dine in their restaurant. And shouldn't all places have a baby change station? It seems as courteous as having automatic doors.
And the breastfeeding thing? Well let's just hope that employee misspoke and her words do not represent the restaurant. Denying a baby the right to eat is just so wrong (and archaic, have we not progressed at all?!)
This reminds me: I went to Portugal for my honeymoon and at 10:00pm in a very fancy restaurant an entire family came in. One member was just a baby in a car seat. No one batted an eye. My husband and I just went on drinking our Port. I doubt they have these discussions there.
I'm not sure how I feel about this ban. I have a 2 year old and when I go to restaurants I take her to ones that I know are child friendly. I don't think I would ever take her to one that had Wine bar in the name. I feel those are the type of restaurants that parents would go to, to have a night out. Don't get me wrong, I love taking my daughter out to restaurants but she's 2 now and sometimes it more work than a nice night out! However, the child in question is only 3 months old, so really where is the harm. The baby is not going to drink alcohol so there is no threat to the liquor license and I'm sure if he was a colicy baby they wouldn't have even considered taking him to a restaurant. So I guess I also see both sides of the coin but am not sure which side I'm leaning towards.